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“a Small Class Of Enormously Wealthy And Economically Powerful Men..."

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      ... “a small class of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men, whose chief object is to hold and increase their power,” could destroy American democracy. That quoted line is from, of course, a Republican President. To learn what Republicans--and, emphatically, Democrats, too--need to do about this, read Robert Reich's offering today, "The Growing Danger of Dynastic Wealth":

      http://robertreich.org/

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      Advice For Democrats On Single-Payer: Don’t Lie About It

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          "On Wednesday, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders introduced the Medicare For All Act of 2017, his long-awaited single-payer health care proposal that (as of this writing) has earned 16 Democratic co-sponsors. That’s a 16-senator improvement on the last single-payer bill he introduced in the Senate. It’s not just fellow lefties, like Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, supporting the Sanders plan. The bill has also earned the co-sponsorship of more typically cautious Democrats like New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, as well as one senator, Wisconsin’s Tammy Baldwin, who’s up for re-election in a state Donald Trump won. It has become difficult for any Democratic senator considering a 2020 presidential bid not to co-sponsor Sanders’ bill, a sign that support for single-payer will be the default position."

          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/po...

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          Wisconsin Or Bust(ed)

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              Let's see--would it take a completely self-centered narcissist to post a link to a now-out-of-date essay on the US Presidential candidates that he wrote 17 months ago, when the only still standing candidates were Clinton and Sanders on the Dem side and Trump and Cruz (and, barely, Kasich) on the GOP side? Probably so, but here's a link to what I wrote then anyway, on the off chance that anyone besides me might find it interesting--

              http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nogodblog/2016/04/wis...

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              Opinion | Bernie Sanders: Why We Need Medicare For All

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                  Medicare for All, a single-payer public option with deep roots in American and Democratic Party history, is still almost certainly not yet politically feasible. Opponents from not only the GOP but also from Democrats representing less progressive states and districts mean it's not going to get enacted any time soon. But there is nevertheless political movement towards Medicare for All. Today's NYTimes features a sharply focused opinion piece by Bernie Sanders in support--

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/bernie-...

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                  Sanders Voters For Trump

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                      This is my first post. May not stick around if we are just going to rehash Bernie v.Hillary. Having said that, according to Thom Hartmann another study shows that enough Sanders voters voted for Trump to swing the election. Hope you are all happy.

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                      Data Manipulators: Team Clinton Still Blaming Sanders For Trump

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                          I am somewhat reluctant to post this, because I'm mostly eager to move on to future progress for liberal/socialist/progressive policies rather than to wallow in blame-game, internecine fighting about the last election. But there has been some fresh nonsense about blaming Bernie for Hillary's defeat, etc. If you've read nothing on the subject lately and are tired of it (I'm looking at you, opie?), you have my permission (what a rare gift, eh?) to ignore this.

                          If you do read it, before you comment, be advised:

                          1. I vigorously supported Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary campaign, based both on issues and my conclusion that he'd be the best POTUS of the two candidates on offer.
                          2. When Sanders did not get the nomination, I supported and voted for Hillary Clinton, based both on issues and my conclusion that she'd be the best POTUS of the two candidates on offer. (Yes, I know about third parties--Green, Libertarian, etc.)

                          If I had it to do over again, I'd vote as I did, even though both my choices lost.

                          The most telling takeaway, IMNHO, from this article, is the analysis of Clinton-in-the-primary-but-McCain-in-the-general in 2008.

                          Read if, like me, you're an election data junkie:

                          https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/29/data-manip...

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                          Being A Sanders Supporter

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                              Some of you foolish people on here have short memories, and like to pretend that people who don't toe the DNC party line are 'fake' Sanders supporters. Aside from the fact that it was Sanders whole message to FIGHT the party line and stop being centrists, to give the people what they really wanted, it has no basis in fact. So I say to you, put up or shut up. Here's how I supported Sanders:

                              5/31/16 - $100

                              5/27/16 - $100

                              5/21/16 - $27

                              5/11/16 - $27

                              5/3/16 - $27

                              4/29/16 - $27

                              4/20/16 - $27

                              4/14/16 - $100 (split 4 ways between Sanders, Teachout, Flores, and Jayapal)

                              4/5/16 - $100

                              3/30/16 - $27

                              3/26/16 - $27

                              3/23/16 - $100

                              3/17/16 - $27

                              3/8/16 - $100

                              3/4/16 - $100

                              2/28/16 - $10

                              2/23/16 - $100

                              2/21/16 - $10

                              2/12/16 - $10

                              2/2/16 - $10

                              1/24/16 - $10

                              Total: $1066

                              Bless Gmail, it still has every single ActBlue contribution confirmation email I received during the campaign. I continued to support Sanders with contributions up until the point it become mathematically infeasible to win unless something drastic happened with superdelegates. During that time, I made many posts arguing against the DNC stacking the deck against Clinton, and why Sanders deserved to be the candidate, and up until New York, had a real chance of winning. At the same time, I was making posts against Drumpf. But now, when the DNC continues with the folly of its ways during the 2016 campaign, I seem to be one of the only people still committed to what Bernie actually stood for before he was forced to sell out to Clinton. And with the DNC pushing complete non-stop propaganda against Drumpf, and Yabberz kicking out or scaring away most of the actual Drumpf supporters, it's generally fallen on me to bring some amount of objectivity to any conversations. You're all just sharing and liking your own biased DNC fed propaganda and pretending there's a huge conspiracy to be found. If anyone is a fake here, it's not me, so bite your tongues.

                              DarOneBridgeTourJadeneinsteinczookDayne Griffith

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                                  What matters to me is not whether the Dems or the GOP are in control, but instead what laws and policies are being promoted, passed, and enforced. I certainly prefer, strongly, the ones promoted by the Dems over those promoted of late by the GOP. But the Dems are falling way short, strategically and legislatively, of what I'd like to see. An interesting take on the subjects:

                                  http://billmoyers.com/story/everything-thats-wrong...

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