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      I know very well what it feels like to have "Christians-In-Name-Only" say the same to me, but now I just don't care.


      These 'Evangelicals" follow a man...

      who does not love his neighbor,

      whose god is mammon,

      who lies, and lies and lies.

      He cares not a atll for the widows, the orphans, the poor...

      His administration is ungodly cruel to children, tearing babies away from thier parents and locking them in forgotten cages.

      He doesn't care if the people go without healthcare


      They follow him because they crave power.

      They want Supreme Court Justices that will represent the "Evangelical" right, not the people.

      They want worldly power.

      They are no longer the salt of the earth

      The great love of their church has grown cold


      Now I don't care at all what the Pharisees of today think or say about Christianity.

      and I bet neither does Pete.



      "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”




      https://news.yahoo.com/pete-buttigieg-christian-evangelicals-003455658.html




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          Joel Collett
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          What a great civil discussion by a good group of people that I know have personal views that range from the very religious, all the way through agnostic to the end of outright hostility to all religious imposed dogma.

          We need to figure out how to describe the religions that still have not evolved very much in seventy five years on issues involving women or those issues we would commonly think of LGBQ related. Some are fully open, others I think it would be fair to say are mostly fully closed. I suspose in this context it would be fair to use the term Consertative and Liberal, if it is recognized it does not necessary track with the political use of these terms.


          It seems to me what you continue to tell Kindergarteners would be appropriate here....”keep your hands to yourself”...just substitute religion for hands. If you get to the ‘pearly gates’ and they will not let you in....you may want to pick a different religion next time around. If it turns out that there are no pearly gates....well that’s fine ...it never hurts to ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’. it’s not going to hurt anything.


          Mayor Pete is going to draw out discussions that probably will be uncomfortable for some people to have because people believe what they believe. Just as a political observation I’m assuming the Twitter fights he is having with Mike Pence are likely to counter productive. Ultra religious Conservatives are going to believe what they believe because this is what they have been taught for a lifetime. He will gain more supporters by his daily actions and good deeds, not by picking fights that do not need to be had in the first place. I realize with 20 people in the race, it will be a great temptation to go for easy headlines, he may be better served for now to focus on political policy issues.

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              Joel Collett
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              I think the largest part of Buttigieg's charm, is that he speaks for a lot of Christian Americans who do not identify with the right wing variety. I especially loved what he said about Pence having a problem with his creator. That is one of my most core beliefs. It was nice to hear someone say it, in a reasonable and respectful way. The left side of Christianity, frowns on judging others. They frown on blaming the poor, not being compassionate, unforgiving, rigid or zealous. They understand that there is grace in humility. This is based on all of us being God's children.


              I have heard the sermons, seen the hate and I have felt the disdain of the right wing. I am sure that Pete Buttageig has too, he wears it well.


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                  Joel Collett
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                  They are forgetting the main teaching of Christ. John 3:16. I don't see anything in there about being Gay, Conservative, American, White...

                  These people seem to forget that the New Testament, and the teachings of Jesus, got rid of all the judgmental nonsense of the old testament. It's all about love.

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                      Denice Patrick
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                      Most forget this important point ....

                      The "Old testament" should be put on a shelf and forgotten ....

                      Instead , the "church's" bounce from it and new to create a reality far from what should be taught ...

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