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      One plank of the anti-Trump - anti-GOP Resistance is firming up as Anti-Israel. It's getting harder and harder to support the Israelis killing Palestinians to steal their homes.


      https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/politics/2020-democ...


      Democrats forced to confront growing divide over Israel heading into 2020


      (CNN)Democrats are entering the 2020 election cycle with many of their leading presidential contenders increasingly willing to break with a pro-Israel foreign policy orthodoxy that guided the party for a generation.

      The new crop of progressive political stars in the House and a base more sympathetic to the Palestinians than ever before helped push a half-dozen White House aspirants to break with the pro-Israel lobby last week on a major bill, even as it passed with support from Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and other high-ranking Democratic officials.


      The ongoing political shift came clearly into focus last week when nearly all of the Democratic presidential hopefuls -- with Sen. Amy Klobuchar a notable exception -- voted against a Senate bill that would allow state and local governments to withhold contracts from those who participate in BDS. Most of them took the same position in explaining their opposition to the bill: They oppose efforts to boycott Israel, they said, but they feared the measure violated First Amendment rights.

      But in voting in near lockstep against it, the presidential contenders highlighted a shift that has been gaining steam among Democrats for years.
      In 2018, the Pew Research Center found that 27% of Democrats said their sympathies lied with Israel, while 25% said the Palestinians -- with the rest saying neither. That was a sharp drop from the 43% who chose Israel just two years earlier. Younger and more liberal Democrats, in particular, said they were more likely to side with the Palestinians. And some companies that cater to a younger clientele have also shifted their positions in response to Israeli government actions: Airbnb in November said it would stop listing rentals in West Bank settlements.
      The election of two BDS supporters -- Omar and Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, the first Muslim women in Congress -- to House Democratic ranks last year pushed the issue to the forefront.
      "We are finally able to have conversations that we weren't really willing to," Omar told CNN recently, "and so it is really important for us to get a different lens about what peace in that region could look like and the kind of difficult conversations we need to have about allies."

      Their willingness to criticize Israel, often in the context of clear and unabashed advocacy for Palestinians, has already begun to test old rhetorical boundaries in a way that even some of the party's more liberal elected officials have typically sought to avoid. Freshman lawmakers like Tlaib, Omar and New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been quick to reject those constraints, and seem poised now to insist on a conversation that top Democrats have long stifled or sought to avoid.
      "Straight up, the party is not ready for the debate that is coming," one senior aide to a Democratic senator told CNN last year. "It is an overdue debate and my strong sense is that no, the party is not ready to have it -- look who the foreign policy leaders are. But that doesn't matter because it's coming."

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          DougSabbag
          2 months ago

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          My long term opinion, should anyone really care, is that the US outta leave Israel and Palestine alone. This big push to support Israel in their fight with the Arabs is unAmerican, unfair and unnecessary.

          I'm happy to see the beginnings of a change in that direction.

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              kimtek
              2 months ago

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              As with any other country, we should stop vetoing UN Resolutions which are based on the Crimes Against Humanity which Israel is guilty of.


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                  DougSabbag
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                  I think we should have had this conversation years ago, whether we are ready or not. I don't see it as being antisemitic, I see it a show of good faith to both sides, instead of just one. We are not Israel, we do not make their policies, we don't control them and we should not be expected to blindly support them. We don't even do that in our own country. I wouldn't want us to, either.

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                      Lizzy
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                      Yes, this conversation should have been started many, many years go. But, the infiltration of USA by the Zionist Cause is very strong and deeply embedded.

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                          Lizzy
                          2 months ago

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                          Point of clearification. Support for BDS’s full position and policies is anti-Semitic. It calls for policies aimed at the elimination of Israel as the Jewish National Homeland and its replacement with yet another Muslim Arab dominated state called Palestine. The goal of BDS is not to try to just have Israel behave better but to remove Israel and the Jews there.

                          Not only do they call for the unhindered right of anyone who can claim to be Palestinian to move into Israel, it’s very motto and logo call for and show the replacement of Israel from the River to the Sea with Palestine. By the way, the head of the UN along with UN and EU human rights organizations have termed this the new anti-Semitism.

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                                  DougSabbag
                                  2 months ago

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                                  Rachel Maddow did a fascinating program tonight that raised countless questions over Saudi Arabia's funding of an anti-zionist campaign in the U.S. led by (of all people) former Vice President and convicted crook Spiro Agnew in the 1980's, which by implication raises even more questions about the Trump regime's current relationships with both the Saudis and Israel.

                                  There's been more going on for decades than we've known, but the common denominators appear to be weapons and money.

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                                      Ray Cunneff
                                      2 months ago

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                                      I saw her program - as always. :-)

                                      Yes, that Spiro received funds from Saudi per his stated interest in fighting Zionism in USA, was amazing.

                                      And yes, a lot has been going on which the general public is unaware of.

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                                              DougSabbag
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                                              I have seen and heard it all in the news and on talk shows. Israel will still be Israel if they leave the Palestinians alone.


                                              The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (also known as BDS) is a global campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's "obligations under international law",[1] defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and "respecting, protecting, and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties". The campaign is organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee.

                                              Protests and conferences in support of the campaign have been held in a number of countries. Supporters of BDS compare the movement with the 20th century anti-apartheid movement and view their actions similar to the boycotts of South Africa during its apartheid era, comparing the situation in Israel to apartheid.

                                              Critics of BDS reject its charge that Israel is an apartheid

                                              state, asserting that in Israel (outside of the West Bank) "Jews and

                                              Arabs mix freely and increasingly live in the same neighborhoods...there

                                              is no imposed segregation."[6] Critics have also argued that the BDS movement is antisemitic in the form its opposition to Zionism takes, drawing analogies to the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses[11][12][13] and accusing it of promoting the de-legitimization of Israel.


                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_...

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                                                  Ghostolini
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                                                  It beats bullets and bombs in my book. The biggest difference is a remedy, of respecting the civil rights of other's and I would say this to both sides. No matter who did what, first. It has to stop, it is what is killing everyone's babies.


                                                  The Multinational Peace Keeping Force, of the early 80's, was good policy. It could be better policy if we approached it in the spirit of fairness.

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                                                          DougSabbag
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                                                          Grew up reading Leon Uris novels, throw in Michener with 'the Source' alongside a bit of Roman history of the 'Palestinian' occupation, and what came out was an unabashedly pro Jewish guy. Then throw in Hitler's atrocities and Israel of 1948 fighting massive odds and 'WINNING' only confirmed my position. Love the under dog!! Then came guys like 'Begin' and the expansionist idea of stealing land using fake reasons, then the settlers driving families off their lands and murdering them if they refused. Now we have a mini-trump named BIBI using gestapo tactics to further drive the wedge deeper between the factions. At 72 I'm no longer that wide eyed hero worshiping youth of my past. We must vote in a leader who will reign in Israel.

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                                                              gypsy46
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                                                              Just appreciating the shout out to Uris and Michener. Exodus and The Source were books that changed how I see the world.


                                                              I can sum it up, BiBi is Israel's Trump.

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