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      One plank of the anti-Trump - anti-GOP Resistance is firming up as Anti-Israel. It's getting harder and harder to support the Israelis killing Palestinians to steal their homes.


      https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/politics/2020-democ...


      Democrats forced to confront growing divide over Israel heading into 2020


      (CNN)Democrats are entering the 2020 election cycle with many of their leading presidential contenders increasingly willing to break with a pro-Israel foreign policy orthodoxy that guided the party for a generation.

      The new crop of progressive political stars in the House and a base more sympathetic to the Palestinians than ever before helped push a half-dozen White House aspirants to break with the pro-Israel lobby last week on a major bill, even as it passed with support from Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and other high-ranking Democratic officials.


      The ongoing political shift came clearly into focus last week when nearly all of the Democratic presidential hopefuls -- with Sen. Amy Klobuchar a notable exception -- voted against a Senate bill that would allow state and local governments to withhold contracts from those who participate in BDS. Most of them took the same position in explaining their opposition to the bill: They oppose efforts to boycott Israel, they said, but they feared the measure violated First Amendment rights.

      But in voting in near lockstep against it, the presidential contenders highlighted a shift that has been gaining steam among Democrats for years.
      In 2018, the Pew Research Center found that 27% of Democrats said their sympathies lied with Israel, while 25% said the Palestinians -- with the rest saying neither. That was a sharp drop from the 43% who chose Israel just two years earlier. Younger and more liberal Democrats, in particular, said they were more likely to side with the Palestinians. And some companies that cater to a younger clientele have also shifted their positions in response to Israeli government actions: Airbnb in November said it would stop listing rentals in West Bank settlements.
      The election of two BDS supporters -- Omar and Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, the first Muslim women in Congress -- to House Democratic ranks last year pushed the issue to the forefront.
      "We are finally able to have conversations that we weren't really willing to," Omar told CNN recently, "and so it is really important for us to get a different lens about what peace in that region could look like and the kind of difficult conversations we need to have about allies."

      Their willingness to criticize Israel, often in the context of clear and unabashed advocacy for Palestinians, has already begun to test old rhetorical boundaries in a way that even some of the party's more liberal elected officials have typically sought to avoid. Freshman lawmakers like Tlaib, Omar and New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been quick to reject those constraints, and seem poised now to insist on a conversation that top Democrats have long stifled or sought to avoid.
      "Straight up, the party is not ready for the debate that is coming," one senior aide to a Democratic senator told CNN last year. "It is an overdue debate and my strong sense is that no, the party is not ready to have it -- look who the foreign policy leaders are. But that doesn't matter because it's coming."

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          DougSabbag
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          I have seen and heard it all in the news and on talk shows. Israel will still be Israel if they leave the Palestinians alone.


          The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (also known as BDS) is a global campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's "obligations under international law",[1] defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and "respecting, protecting, and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties". The campaign is organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee.

          Protests and conferences in support of the campaign have been held in a number of countries. Supporters of BDS compare the movement with the 20th century anti-apartheid movement and view their actions similar to the boycotts of South Africa during its apartheid era, comparing the situation in Israel to apartheid.

          Critics of BDS reject its charge that Israel is an apartheid

          state, asserting that in Israel (outside of the West Bank) "Jews and

          Arabs mix freely and increasingly live in the same neighborhoods...there

          is no imposed segregation."[6] Critics have also argued that the BDS movement is antisemitic in the form its opposition to Zionism takes, drawing analogies to the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses[11][12][13] and accusing it of promoting the de-legitimization of Israel.


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              DougSabbag
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              Grew up reading Leon Uris novels, throw in Michener with 'the Source' alongside a bit of Roman history of the 'Palestinian' occupation, and what came out was an unabashedly pro Jewish guy. Then throw in Hitler's atrocities and Israel of 1948 fighting massive odds and 'WINNING' only confirmed my position. Love the under dog!! Then came guys like 'Begin' and the expansionist idea of stealing land using fake reasons, then the settlers driving families off their lands and murdering them if they refused. Now we have a mini-trump named BIBI using gestapo tactics to further drive the wedge deeper between the factions. At 72 I'm no longer that wide eyed hero worshiping youth of my past. We must vote in a leader who will reign in Israel.

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                  DougSabbag
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                  Democrats are entering the 2020 election cycle with many of their leading presidential contenders increasingly willing to break with a pro-Israel foreign policy orthodoxy that guided the party for a generation.


                  I don't have a problem with the USA being pro-Israel. My problem is what being "pro-Israel" means. It has traditionally meant supporting Israel in anything and everything the Israeli government does. That is what I take issue with, not only related to Israel, but with ANY nation.

                  We should support good policies and practices but not support bad policies. And that does not mean we necessarily have to cut off diplomatic relations to nations because we disagree with some of their policies, depending on how egregious the bad policies are. And we should expect and indeed encourage the same treatment from our allies.

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                      Think about just who we're backing in that area. Murderers, (saudis) and Syrians(russia) , Israeli expansion, the gulf states where women and outsiders brought in for labor are treated like dirt. Can't we do better?

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                          TOCB
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                          Our own history is not without major blemishes such as the colonization of N. America. But, as with Slavery, we have learned and stopped such behavior / policies.

                          So, it frustrates me that we are supporting the blatantly unacceptable Israeli / Zionist 'colonization' of Palestine still today, which I thought we have learned not to do ourselves, anymore.

                          We know it is wrong, and we are paying dearly for supporting it as we garner the enemies Israel is earning through her unacceptable, violent, colonization.

                          Not just for the injustice to the Palestinians, but pragmatically, for our own best interests, we must stop - ASAP.

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                                  vani
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                                  but this is typical of the US. They do all this stuff with nations all over the world. They also do it inside the border.


                                  The thing is that each president has picked their own stand when it came to Israel. Some claim that many countries fear Israel because of it's religious background. You go after Israel and you just could have a biblical event happen to your own country. Israel has gotten away with a lot for decades so there must be some truth to it.

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                                      vani
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                                      LMFAO...brought to you by the Electronic Intifada and Al Jazeera, the wholly owned mouthpiece of an anti-Israeli Arab Oil Sheikdom.

                                      Oh, so what? This is standard American politics by innumerable lobbying groups, hundreds using way more money in their lobbying efforts, including say environmental and women’s rights groups along with oil companies and anti-abortion groups. The sausage making of present day American Democracy.


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                                          vani
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                                          Correct, correct, wrong, wrong, correct, wrong.

                                          The nationstate law in Israel is little different than the nationstate law in Ireland or many other countries. To selectively oppose it is anti-Semitic. Now, if you equally oppose the Natonstate of Ireland that might then make it not anti-Semitic.

                                          BDS calls for the elimination of Israel as the Jewish National Homeland and for policies that would eliminate the Jewish population of the area. It is a blatantly anti-Semitic organization.

                                          Zionism is the Jewish version of Irish Republicanism. If you selectively oppose the nationalism of the Jewish People but of no other People like the Irish, it is anti-Semitic.

                                          Oh, but this is posted by vani which makes them all anti-Semitic in intent because vani has posted and supported blatant anti-Semitic crap before along with his bigoted, Farrakhan-loving sidekick, Logic.


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