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      Unbelievable. What is even more unbelievable is that this went on for so long before anyone found out that background checks weren't being done. It was left to one single lowly employee to keep track of all the background checks being made in the entire State of Florida?


      The Times interviewed the employee, Lisa Wilde, who told them she was working in the mailroom when she was given oversight of the database in 2013.

      “I didn’t understand why I was put in charge of it,” Wilde said.


      So, a woman with no experience is given this crucial job and there is absolutely no oversight whatsoever and this woman didn't do background checks for over a year? That is absurd to think someone didn't know about this.


      What am I missing here? Don't those people selling the actual weapon have to have a completed background check before they sell someone a weapon? Isn't that the law down there in Florida? If so, then why aren't the gun shop owners who sell these weapons without a completed background check being held accountable?


      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/09/fl...

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          Richard Caslon
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          Reminds me of San Francisco’s policy governing Sex slave parlors. Only one older guy who can barely move around inspects theses businesses.

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              Richard Caslon
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              Putnam...he guy ultimately in charge of background checks, is running for Governor.

              He’s already whining that liberals are attacking him.

              The NRA wants their boy elected... so they put out this :

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              THE FACTS:

              The Division of Licensing under the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DOACS) did, in fact, do background checks on applicants for licenses to carry concealed weapons or firearms.

              Background checks were done through FCIC (Florida Criminal Information Computer system) and NCIC (National Criminal Information Computer system -- the national FBI fingerprint data base) and they also did a NICS check (National Instant Check System), which is the name-based background check system.

              The NICS system is the same system used by retail firearms dealers to do background checks when a person buys a firearm.

              ALL THREE BACKGROUND CHECKS WERE DONE.

              During the time the employee failed to do her job, approximately 350,000 applicants for carry licenses were processed. Of those 350,000, 365 had a disqualifier based on the NICS background check.

              The employee should have uploaded those 365 into the internal computer system to stop the processing of those applications. She did not. So those 365 applicants got their licenses anyhow.

              Although they got their licenses to CARRY firearms, they still would not have been allowed to purchase a firearm from a firearms dealer because the same NICS background check would have been performed by a dealer and would have stopped them from purchasing a firearm.

              A license to carry does not exempt a person from the background check required when you purchase a firearm. The license ONLY exempts a license holder from the 3-day waiting period.

              When the Division discovered the problem, the employee was let go. The Division then ran new background checks on all 365 applicants who initially had NICS name-based disqualifiers. Of those 365, 74 were cleared and 291 still had disqualifiers, so their licenses to carry firearms were immediately suspended.

              THOSE ARE THE FACTS. The facts don't fit narrative being pushed by the anti-gun political opponents of the Commissioner of Agriculture, Adam Putnam, who is a candidate for Governor.

              https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180609/florida-alert-background-checks-were-done-on-applicants-for-gun-licenses

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              Funny... that’s not exactly what Putnam said a couple hours ago.

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                  Richard Caslon
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                  Selling and profit are two crucial words to the question. Should that woman been not selling, or store would show little profit, that would catch attention at once!

                  Punishments and heavy fines are the answer before any new rules are confirmed. We all know how long it takes to introduce new rules into firearms sales.

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                      booger
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                      Sometimes the problem isn't in creating new rules/laws but rather implementing what we already have on the books as we see not being done in this particular situation. Who is checking to make sure these laws are being implemented? Makes one wonder how many more States are doing something to bypass our laws concerning weapons registration.

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                              Richard Caslon
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                              What an odd story. This may be one of the biggest failures to train a new employee that I have ever read.


                              To get a concealed ID in Florida you need to provide a photo and fingerprints and sign an application form authorizing a criminal background check which is far more extensive than just the standard computer background check that is done at the gun store.


                              This article was not clear about what check this clerk was not doing because there would be at least two of them. The criminal check is the most important one and the one you do when you are at the gun store would be somewhat redundant to the more detailed criminal background check.


                              This particular process would have done nothing to allow a gun to be sold to a felon because each gun store is going to run their own database check. The person who really needs to be reprimanded is the supervisor who put someone in charge of something as important as this and did not make sure the person was properly trained.

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