People are awfully militant about everything that I talk about in here, hmmm.....

A+... you figured it out. sorry there is no prize or cherry pie for figuring it out.

your enlightenment, is your own reward. you may sing owh what the hell or cherry bell ice cream is Godspell.

After seeing what's gone on these past couple years, being in the middle of some of those crowds, seeing it all unfold live on the news, arguing with true believers online, shaking friggin Mike Pence's hand... I am not going to pull my punches anymore. I won't try to soften what I know to be happening to make it more palatable for people that choose not to see it, or who do see it, but like that it is that way.

I'm all out of fucks to give.

I'm curious why you think fascism is hiding "behind patriotism/nationalism and civic religion", when these things are the very essence of fascism. Every declared patriot is by definition as fascist. Until Americans work that out it will always walk the path of fascism. How many more foreigners need to die from American invasions to make people realise that?

Not every patriot. Just those for whom patriotism is synonymous with racism, hatred of the people who are different, the continuous search for scapegoats and the infallibility of leaders.

Because most people, most "patriotic" Americans, don't recognize that that is what forms the beating heart of fascism. It disguises itself as those things, so they don't see it as something that's negative, or actively harmful and oppressive.

We used to jailed employers who hired illegals back in the seventies. Reagan stopped that. Guess what? The meat packing and the construction companies hired such migrants breaking up the unions and depressing wages. Having such cheap and reliable labor was like crack to such businessmen.

This country has been regressing since 2010 foolishly electing republicans into office who have been slashing government in lieu of giving their billionaire donors tax cuts and eroding employees rights.

The capitalist owner class definitely loves having a permanent underclass of cheap labor to exploit.

Are you trying to make me laugh?

Did USA start WW2? No, Nazis + USSR did, with Japan joining in 1941.

Did USA occupy half of Europe after WW2 and turned it into one huge prison camp behind the iron curtain? No, USSR did.

Did USA use chemical weapons repeatedly, killed tens of thousands of own citizens, invade 2 neighbors for the sake of territorial expansion, while presidential sons were flogging soccer player for each lost game? No, Saddam's Iraq did.

Does USA executes thousands each year, blocks internet and squashes pretty much every personal and political liberty? No, China does.

Did USA invade Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine, killed many thousands and officially annex one of the occupied territories, while constantly threatening all neighbors with tanks, bombs, genocide, radioactive ash just for the fun of it and calling them "our territory" and "not real countries"? No, Russia did.

Does USA kill thousands every year for their faith or lack thereof? No, the Islamists do.

... I can put here 100 more examples like this ...

On the other hand ...

Who created internet, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Apple, who does a lion's share of the meaningful academic research, hi-tech and software development in the world, who was one of the first modern democracies with people like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington? USA

But who are the fascists? USA.

Does it make any sense to you?

Wake up and look at the world around you. There are the REAL bad guys out there outside USA, EU and Canada. All these absurd conspiracy theories about "guilty west" and "guilty America" are getting ridiculously out of hand and are helping the bad guys a lot.

PS. I am definitely not a Trump fan or anything similar, but a liberal cosmopolitan globalist without rose-tinted glasses (born in USSR).

Are you joking? You're completely unfamiliar with the USA's long history of imperialist aggression, the coups and rigging of elections in other countries, cover and overt meddling, the dozens upon dozens of wars and police actions? The use and spread of torture techniques, rampant targeted assassinations and terror killings? You don't know about the US's long history of "experimenting" with new and exotic toxic weapons, how we're one of the fee countries that still uses cluster bombs that contaminate so many countries that we've bombed with unexploded bomblets to this day? You don't know about all of the radioactive uranium munitions we've blasted over the mid-east? Tell me, what about the genocide and broken treaties of the innumerous native nations, the surviving ones of which we still shortchange, neglecting many to live in third world conditions in this, the supposed richest nation on Earth? For being the land of the free, how come we imprison more people than any other country on Earth, bar none, not even the most tyrannical?

Take your blinders off, and see the USA for the reality of what it is, not the marketing campaigns that it's sold to you.