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      You've seen the video I suspect.

      It was taken at the Friday January 18 Respect Life and Right to Life Annual Rally in Washington DC where a group of Middle School and High School Students from Covington (Kentucky) Catholic took time out from respecting life to mock a group of Native Americans taking part in another rally for Indigenous People focusing their attention on Nathan Phillips , a Vietnam War Vieteran who is an elder in the Omaha tribe, who was leading a traditional chant for peace.

      The student featured in the video stands in front of him blocking his way with a snide smile adorning a Make America Great capped head. He has been identified by local press as an upper classman.



      MY THOUGHTS:

      Kids do stupid things....a lot of stupid things....they mock each other....they mock their parents....they mock their parents......WHAT MAKES THIS PARTICULAR EPISODE UNIQUELY DISTURBING IS THIS:

      • They were accompanied by parents and staff. Where were they? Absent? In agreement with their behavior? Incapable of interacting effectively?
      • They were taking part in a rally that proclaims a fundamental respect for ALL human life and are supposedly from schools and other organizations where this is studied and embraced.
      • They were wearing clothing that proclaimed that they saw themselves as representatives of a man and a movement that is marked by enormous disrespect for others.

      Education at home, at school and in broader society has stood as the tool that draws "kids" into "adulthood." Such behavior: boorish, rude, insensitive, hypocritical, and "racial" in tone......indicates that both home and school and society are failing these kids.

      I wonder how many of the adults accompanying them were were wearing those hats?

      There is talk now, after a hasty and pro-forma apology from the Catholic Diocese, of "serious disciplinary action including the possibility of expulsion".......of whom? The kids? The chaperones? The parents? The teachers? The President whose hat they were wearing?


      P.S. The boy's mom has communicated to with Heavy.com as reported by the Independent. She claims that the boys were being harassed by "Black Muslims". There is video showing a group of black men nearby arguing with some in the Covington group. What is clear is that Mr. Phillips was not part of that group and was actually standing between the students and the group of men.

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          MurphtheSurf3
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              MurphtheSurf3
              4 weeks ago

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              The photo above is all that's needed, the rest is blowing smoke. Mr. Phillips stated he felt threatened by those boys and that is good enough.

              They are hoodlums and their adults are enablers.

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                  czook
                  3 weeks ago

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                  I have the explicit advantage of further information, but I'll nail you, anyway, Apparently the photo told a false story that you bought into, because of your extreme bias. This is a picture of ultimate restraint in the face of aggression.

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                          MurphtheSurf3
                          4 weeks ago

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                          Well, I watched the entire videos that are floating around and the full context is different. Not an excuse for any mocking but does lend some understanding, and points the blame at a group of adults who instigated the confrontation from the begining who are neither part of the student group nor the Native Americans.


                          A group of Black Hebrew Israelite (a horrible hate group, which blames the "fake" Jews (meaning the real Jews) for all the world's ills) - showed up for some reason, and they started verbal abuse of the Native Americans.. They were using bull horns to tell the Natives that Gd took away their land because of their horrible religious beliefs. Some Natives tried to shut them up, but they continued and the Natives apparently (acting like grown ups) moved away and tried to ignore their invective.


                          Then, the hate group started in on the kids. Saying they were the product of "incest" and other such verbal attacks. That's when the kids got rowdy and started jumping around etc.


                          It was at that moment that the Native American in question walked up to the kids with his drum. It is rather inexplicable under the circumstances that he went there instead of to the Black Hebrew Israelites, who were the cause of the growing tension. But that is what he did.


                          The kids were not "blocking" the guy's way. He approached them. They were already standing in a group giving some lip back to the Black Hebrews. It is at least understandable that they would have seen this as an action in support of the chanting Black Hebrews. Hard to otherwise interpret the stance under these circumstances.


                          He has since made clear that his intention was to drum for peace between the groups - but there is no way one could have known that in the heat of the moment.


                          And - the kids do then begin to mock them. Teenagers being insulted by adults who then react very inappropriately.


                          So I don't condone it, but the full tape provides some understanding and should I think give us pause before completely condemning the teenagers.


                          I do note that there seems to be ZERO outrage directed to the adult Black Hebrew group -- which was clearly insulting both the kids and the Native Americans with some very harsh rhetoric.


                          Why is that not the lead of the news stories? Or at least a major component of the stories?

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                              Jerry Tanenbaum
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                              Absolutely correct. Though I think that the kids initially thought that the Native American was on their side, since the black Hebrews had attacked him previously

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                                      Jerry Tanenbaum
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                                      What I take away from this, and the media coverage about it, is that simple narratives are often really inadequate in explaining things!


                                      Sometimes, things are pretty simple and black and white. An anti-semite massacring Jews in a synagogue, alt-right punks marching with stupid tiki torches, pretty black and white.


                                      But these sorts of interactions between different people and groups, they're messy. Each person and group comes with their own preconceptions and biases that colors everything about how they perceive it, and act during it, and remember it afterwards, and the same situation can be interpreted radically different by all people involved. Often, most of the time I'd even say, none of them are really totally right or wrong. An accurate understanding of the situation has to consider the totality of it, and how it's a meeting of people that are misunderstanding each other in the moment.


                                      My personal bias, and the way I still feel, is that those kids are jerks, at least slightly racist dickheads. It's a kneejerk assumption, sure, but anyone that would actually go around wearing a MAGA hat knows they're wearing something that lots of people see as a hood nowadays. I don't know nearly as much about the Black Hebrew group, sounds like they were being antagonistic, but I judge the privileged, private-schooled teen boys a little bit more harshly, because I am not blind to the power dynamics in this country and its history. I probably would have given those kids a little bit of shit too if I saw them while I was touring DC, walking around in those colors.

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                                                  REMINDS ME of the Six Blind Men and the Elephant



                                                  In this case the Elephant in the Room is:

                                                  Respect Life

                                                  https://marchforlife.org/mfl-2019/

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