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      One of the sources RW supporters have used to rebut Resist Trump articles and reports is You Tube. Except for Google, more people search on You Tube more than they do on any other site on the web.

      You Tube plays can be purchased for pennies, and delivered in bulk. That means that they are highly vulnerable to manipulation, and although You Tube has a system in place to spot and block fake views, some slip through regularly.

      You Tubes fake-view ecosystem undermines credibility by manipulating digital currency which can have a "significant effect" because it can mislead consumers and allow fake news and hate speech. Recently, You Tube blocked InfoWars.

      The following excerpts from a NY Times' report on fake You Tube views gives us a reason not to easily use or accept You Tube views and citations as always reputable.

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      Just as other social media companies have been plagued by impostor accounts and artificial influence campaigns, YouTube has struggled with fake views for years.

      Inflating views violates YouTube’s terms of service. But Google searches for buying views turn up hundreds of sites offering “fast” and “easy” ways to increase a video’s count by 500, 5,000 or even five million. The sites, offering views for just pennies each, also appear in Google search ads.

      To test the sites, a Times reporter ordered thousands of views from nine companies. Nearly all of the purchases, made for videos not associated with the news organization, were fulfilled in about two weeks.

      One of the businesses was Devumi.com. According to company records, it collected more than $1.2 million over three years by selling 196 million YouTube views. Nearly all the views remain today. An analysis of those records, from 2014 to 2017, shows that most orders were completed in weeks, though those for a million views or more took longer. Providing large volumes cheaply and quickly is often a sign that a service is not offering real viewership.

      Devumi’s customers included an employee of RT, a media organization funded by the Russian government, and an employee of Al Jazeera English, another state-backed company. Other buyers were a filmmaker working for Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group, and the head of video at The New York Post. (Al Jazeera and The Post said the workers were not authorized to make such purchases and were no longer employed there.)

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      Multiple musicians bought views to appear more popular: YouTube views factor into metrics from the ratings company Nielsen and song charts including Billboard’s Hot 100.

      Some companies bought views for clients with the promise of social media promotion that would result in real people watching their videos. Purveyors depend on constantly evolving tactics to deliver views, including automated or “bot” traffic and pop-under videos on unsuspecting users’ computers.

      At one point in 2013, YouTube had as much traffic from bots masquerading as people as it did from real human visitors, according to the company. Some employees feared this would cause the fraud detection system to flip, classifying fake traffic as real and vice versa — a prospect engineers called “the Inversion.”

      . . .fixes were made that relieved the fake-traffic surge, which YouTube said resulted from an attack against the website.

      Years later, the battle against fake views continues, even as YouTube contends with disinformation campaigns, like Russia’s efforts during the 2016 election, and language it considers hate speech, including posts by the recently banned Infowars site.

      YouTube would not disclose the number of fake views it blocked each day, but said its teams worked to keep them to less than 1 percent of the total. Still, with the platform registering billions of views a day, tens of millions of fake views could be making it through daily.

      “View count manipulation will be a problem as long as views and the popularity they signal are the currency of YouTube”

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/11/technology/youtube-fake-view-sellers.html

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          opie
          8 months ago

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          I don't get it. I use YouTube once in a while but don't depend on the number of views on any video that I watch. I do searches on certain subjects and don't look at the number of views or the ratings. Most of the videos on YouTube are not that good. But if you check out my videos eventually you can find a good one.

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              opie
              8 months ago

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              I frequent YouTube quite a bit for historical stuff mostly with the occasional nature/environmental subject. I would never use YouTube as a research vehicle for news or politics. Too many videos of people with their personal views on any subject having little or no knowledge of that which they speak.

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                  opie
                  8 months ago

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                  Seems there is always a way to commit fraud . Such a shame. Thanks for the post. I always wondered when the news says there were over a million of likes. Could have been from this.

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                      opie
                      8 months ago

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                      I always had a problem with the bots on YT. I don't have an account or any videos uploaded to the site but years ago I did. I often wondered how a person could have over 1500 views a hour or less on a video that was pure crap. Then I found out about the bots. All of theses bots they talk about all have a footprint. There is a quirk in each of them that makes them work. All you have to do is find that quirk. People said this was true but as soon as they find the quirk the people owning the bot release updates to change it. So it's a continuous cycle to keep up. I did see one video go from 6 views to 220 or so views in less than one hour and the user account only had like 60 followers. The video wasn't that good. It was poorly made and in parts of it the video was very shaky and you couldn't make out what was happening.


                      I don't know if Google has the same rule they did years ago but years ago the rule was if you want to be paid the viewers have to view the full video.


                      I am sorry if I am about to piss a few off but I am all for registration of bots. If you allow downloads of your bot, or purchases or use of your bot you must have a registration number built into the bot. If you are found with a unregistered bot regardless if it is your bot or someone else's then you get fined. All bots must have a permanent footprint so that if sites don't want them on their site they are able to block them.

                      Last is the internet needs to get away from click payments period. The need to come up with something that you can't fake. Maybe rely on just purchases? Or turn on the paywall.

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                          Ghostolini
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                          I am totally disgusted with bots.

                          Videos can be manufactured to disparage anyone with false accusations. That is why You Tube isn't considered a good place to get reliable reports via video.

                          Thanks much for the S/S Ghostolini

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                                  opie
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                                  Wow! It was even worst than I ever thought. Bot traffic on YouTube, creating false hits (which were being sold), was equal to real human traffic? I never knew it had gotten that bad.

                                  Quotes ---> (1) At one point in 2013, YouTube had as much traffic from bots masquerading as people as it did from real human visitors, according to the company. Some employees feared this would cause the fraud detection system to flip, classifying fake traffic as real and vice versa — a prospect engineers called “the Inversion.”

                                  (2) “View count manipulation will be a problem as long as views and the popularity they signal are the currency of YouTube”

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                                      8 months ago

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                                      Thanks for reading this Dajuan Candle - my posts lack exposure these days. Something is happening with the site where posts are being buried, but I am glad you read his one.


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