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      Trump Creates FISA Confusion

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      Trump Creates FISA Confusion

      Mixed Messages On Eve Of Re-authorization Vote



      By Ray Cunneff

      January 11, 2018


      Moments ago, the House of Representatives voted in favor of a six-year re-authorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, otherwise known as FISA. But it passed with no thanks to President Donald Trump, who created last-minute chaos by tweeting earlier this morning completely contradictory statements about it.

      As he did earlier this week in his now-infamous 55-minute video-op for the press in the White House cabinet room, where he demonstrated an utter lack of understanding of the issues involving DACA, immigration reform and "the wall", as well as how easily he can be swayed to contradictory positions by the person he's talked to last, it became painfully clear that the takeaway was "I'm not a president, I just play one on TV".

      He did the same thing this morning on the FISA re-authorization tweeting:


      "'House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.' This is the act that may have

      been used with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil

      and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?"


      Congressional Republicans, anxious to get the sometimes controversial and often misunderstood Section 702 re-authorized in the interest of national security, were thrown into disbelief and confusion and demanded clarification before the vote.

      Trump has been critical of "unmasking," a term used to describe revealing identities through "incidental collection" of Americans who were communicating with foreign officials under surveillance by the US intelligence community. This became embroiled in Trump's February 2017 claim that President Obama had wiretapped him in Trump Tower, demanding Congress to investigate.

      The disbelief came because Trump's own White House had issued a statement on Tuesday in support of the bill, saying that Section 702 "is vital to keeping the nation safe" and that reauthorizing the bill before its expiration January 19th "is a top priority of the administration."

      Ninety minutes after his first tweet, Trump attempted to put out the fire he started:


      "With that being said, I have personally directed the fix to the unmasking process

      since taking office and today's vote is about foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys

      on foreign land. We need it! Get smart!"


      Granted, there has been some confusion about exactly what FISA 702 does and does not do. I've attached an article I wrote in March, 2017 about FISA, "un-masking" and "incidental collection".


      https://www.yabberz.com/post/comey-confirms-fbi-pr...

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          Rastus
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          "smoloko" .....

          Yes , your "SMOking the LOKO " weed ....

          If you believe this nonsense ....

          But then we already know how you are ....

          Long live conspiracy theories !

          J . A . I .

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              Ray Cunneff
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              It is beyond his comprehension. That much is obvious. He is so beneath the office he holds. Can't we just fire him? Oh well, I know the answer to that.

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                  Dajuan Candle
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                  Wait, it gets worse. Did you hear what Trump said later today at a meeting on immigration that shocked even his Republican colleagues?

                  Trump insulted much of the world when he asked why the U.S. allows people to come in from “shithole countries” like Haiti, El Salvador and much of Africa, rather than whiter-than-white countries like Norway?

                  (Of course, only yesterday Trump managed to embarrass Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg, who took it with good humor when the official White House press release described her as the leader of "Normay".)

                  Former Mexican president Vicente Fox had the perfect reaming of his orangeness:


                  Vicente Fox Quesada@VicenteFoxQue

                  @realDonaldTrump, your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world.

                  With what authority do you proclaim who’s welcome in America and who’s not.

                  America’s greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant

                  background, Donald?


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                          Ray Cunneff
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                          Section 702 allows the contents of telephone calls and emails of American citizens to be read, without search warrants, if those Americans have ever communicated with foreign targets of U.S. investigations. Reauthorization was strongly opposed by Democrats and Republican Senator Rand Paul.

                          I'm personally at the point of believing that the Constitution has been thrown out the window by FISA and the Patriot Act. And the American people have been lied to so many times about 1) what these laws actually authorize and 2) whether the U.S. national security apparatus actually obeys any laws on this subject, anyway. I'm eternally grateful to Edward Snowden, without whom the American people would have no idea whatsoever what the government that is supposed to be owned and controlled by the people has been doing.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-rene...

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                              Journeyman
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                              That's not quite correct. Section 702 covers (among other things) the "incidental collection" of Americans who are in contact with foreign operatives overseas that are already under surveillance by means of legally-obtained FISA Court warrants. The Americans inadvertently scooped up in this surveillance are only identified by an assigned number and cannot be "unmasked" without yet another legal court order in which the government must show cause.

                              Not quite as draconian as you have portrayed. Obama was nonetheless concerned about individual privacy rights and wanted to build some additional safeguards into 702, but the Republicans prevented any such fine tuning.


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                                      Ray Cunneff
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                                      "foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land."


                                      Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees this. This is a law authorizing foreigners to spy on themselves? Oh please, oh please, somebody read it to me in another language. Maybe that'll help reduce MY confusion.

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                                          MirrorNeuron
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                                          I'll repeat what I just posted to Journeyman because there is so much confusion and misinformation. Quoting myself:

                                          "Section 702 covers (among other things) the "incidental collection" of Americans who are in contact with foreign operatives overseas that are already under surveillance by means of legally-obtained FISA Court warrants. The Americans inadvertently scooped up in this surveillance are only identified by an assigned number and cannot be "unmasked" without yet another legal court order in which the government must show cause.

                                          Not quite as draconian as you have portrayed. Obama was nonetheless concerned about individual privacy rights and wanted to build some additional safeguards into 702, but the Republicans prevented any such fine tuning."

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