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      So in other words, we are to accept these mass killings as the new norm and the most that can be done about it is to offer condolences to the families of those who lost their children in these shootings? Is this what we are willing to accept? It is usually someone we don't know who gets killed in these massacres but what happens when someone in your family or a loved one ends up the victim? Are you willing to just sit back and accept these bogus condolences and call it a day and move on? How many more mass killings will it take before our Legislators start talking about this issue and work across the aisle in hopes of doing something about it. Are we going to stop this carnage. No, of course not but we can minimize it so that one day it isn't us or our loved ones who fall prey to this carnage which has become all too common now. We hear so often the argument about protecting one's right to own a gun but what about the majority of Americans who choose not to own a gun? Don't they have rights as well?



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          Richard Caslon
          3 years ago

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          The owning of a gun does not supersede the right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Unless, of course your happiness depends on owning a gun. That being the case, you definitely have issues.

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              Richard Caslon
              3 years ago

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              This is one of the few times I agree with Donald Trump. Nothing could be done to stop this event except maybe put the mom in jail for knowing her son has mental problems and still allowing his access to guns.

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                  Steven Lemon
                  3 years ago

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                  We shouldn't have gotten to this point and wouldn't if there were proper background checks. Trump's idea of doing nothing is not an idea it is just a cop out because he doesn't want to do squat about the problem.

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                      Richard Caslon
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                      He doesn't want to piss off the NRA, just like any other politician, holding, or running for office. It makes no difference whether he's getting donations from them; it's just not the popular thing to do. As for background checks, which I support, how do we know who to test for mental issues? There's also an issue of people having sought mental help & being turned away, even when having nothing to do with pro or anti-guns. There's no perfect answer other than that the public has no need to own automatics. As for the 2nd amendment, it's interpreted differently by each side's agenda. Those supporting guns say the right is guaranteed. Anti-gunners interpret it as not being absolute. This is no different than debates about abortion, the existence of god or when a conception becomes a person. There is no winner & never will be. Believe whatever you believe & agree to disagree. Trying to force someone to accept your point of view in lieu of their own is just idiotic & unfair. Will you change your beliefs & accept theirs?

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                          Richard Caslon
                          3 years ago

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                          What was improper about the background checks these guys underwent?

                          And what makes you think every criminal submits to a background check?

                          Was it the fact that they committed murder? Is that what tipped you off?

                          You make a lot of comments about what others do or don't do, but I haven't seen any concrete proposals coming from YOU.

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                              Steven Lemon
                              3 years ago

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                              You sit here and criticize me for my suggestion of background checks and actually enforcing them and then you say you haven't seen anything coming from me. LMAO. You don't want to see, that's your problem.

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                                  Richard Caslon
                                  3 years ago

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                                  I may be getting my post-mates mixed up, but I THOUGHT you were the one with whom AGREED on every proposal you put forth with only a slight modification of ONE of them.


                                  I don't even bother to comment on something about which I know nothing. Just because we have a disagreement on something doesn't mean I don't see that difference.

                                  And the great thing about MY problems is that I have complete confidence that I can handle them.

                                  It must be that "macho cr@p" you were talking about.


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                                      Steven Lemon
                                      3 years ago

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                                      Maybe you should work on how you frame your comments. I mean really, hang Liberals? That attitude plain outright is disgusting and we should trust the likes of you with a gun? Yeah, right.

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                                          Richard Caslon
                                          3 years ago

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                                          What, exactly, would YOU do to stop this senseless killing? Could we apply your solution to stop the senseless killings done with automobiles and alcohol?

                                          Those who chose not to own a gun are not having their rights violated just as those who choose not to abort are not being violated.

                                          Just because you want to wait for the cops to come when someone kicks in your door doesn't mean I want to.

                                          It is hard to do, but blood and brains can be cleaned off the living room walls and I would rather it be THUG blood than mine.

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                                              Steven Lemon
                                              3 years ago

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                                              No one is ever going to stop the killing but it could be drastically reduced if we could begin to get Congress to even acknowledge the problem and work towards minimizing it. They won't, so this killing will continue as if it were just business as usual. Knock your socks off Rambo, go splatter the walls with blood and brains but make sure you know the bad guy from the good guy before doing so.

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                                                  Richard Caslon
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                                                  Well, oh wise one, how about YOU tell us what the problem is. Maybe congress is watching.


                                                  As for the blood splatter, I don't care if it is a good guy or a bad guy, if he or she is threatening me or my family, I will work to insure that, one year from that day, he or she will be a one year old GHOST.

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                                                      Richard Caslon
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                                                      Macho? ME?

                                                      Dayum. I may not impress you, but it is obvious you are easily impressed.

                                                      Not trying to impress you or anyone else. Just trying to keep you off my lawn.

                                                      And you are absotively correct, if someone is threatening me or my family, I really don't care if it is a good guy or a bad one.

                                                      God and Allah can sort them out.

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                                                          Richard Caslon
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                                                          There was a time (within my lifetime--I was a victim of it myslef) when Americans could be locked up just for being nutty. Considering that statistically 90% of the mentally ill can be odd or even annoying without being any danger to anyone, even themselves, 9% are suicidal and thus a danger to themselves, and only about 1% are a danger to others--do we really want to return to the days when the civil rights of the mentally ill were routinely violated for the convenience of their family and or friends who found them embarrassing and/or inconvenient?

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                                                              Grace Adams
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                                                              What a lot people also don't understand about mental illness is that that it's NOT the "drugs"that make us kill sometimes it's NOT TAKING THE DRUGS that can cause one person to kill. Most times it's individuals who have issues with making friends, the loner, the angry adolescent, or any person who decides its a good day to go kill people.

                                                              From what I read here, most people believe that it has to be the "mind altering" drugs we take that make us kill! It's amazing what ignorant people can come up with.

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                                                                  Alphie
                                                                  3 years ago

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                                                                  I did NOT say anything about drugs for or against. I still say it is an improvement that we are no longer violating the civil rights of the 90% of the mentally ill who are no threat to anyone even themselves. Now we have to wait for the mentally ill to actually commit some crime before we can lock them up.

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