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A Question For All - After Trump Falls, What Do We Do Next?

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      Right now the focus un-seating Pretender Trump is absolutely required, but I admit to having some concern that there must be some preparation to determine what actions need to be taken after Humpty-Trumpy cannot - nor will not - be put back together again.

      There will be those who decry the downfall of the Pretender, for there are those who still think Nixon was innocent (he still had a 24% approval rating when he resigned), and we may never be able to change their minds.

      But we still have to function as a society. One giant party just does not work.

      On another thread I was discussing the idea about "We, the People" and was told that it sounded as if I was not including a whole section of the population - specifically Sanders supporters. Others have said that the phrase sounded like I was excluding White Nationalists, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, African-Americans, Latinos, Asians, Women, Catholics (seriously), Christians, Muslims, Jews, the Elderly and anyone else who feels disaffected.

      It often appears that everyone is left behind in one manner or another, at one time or another, and I have yet to meet anyone who has not been offended by something that truly was an innocent comment or action - myself included - during a heated discussion. After all, my personal issues and concerns are always in the forefront of my thought process.

      During the last election cycle fifty-seven different political parties ran candidates in the USA. That is an awful lot of differing opinions among large groups of people, and arguably a GOP splinter group acquired the Oval Office by convincing the bulk of the Republican Party that they were actually representing them as opposed to the Oligarchy that the victors are not so secretly owned by.

      What needs to happen regardless of the timeline that removes the Mercer Owned, Russian Rented, President Bannon operated Fake Trump Presidency by the vast majority of the citizenry from all sides is the preparation required to acquire the next common ground - that of a wonderfully diverse people with occasionally dramatically different ideological agendas running the country well -

      as opposed to into the turf.

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      The SANE60 - Moderates For A Stable America - Anti - Trump Since 2015

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          Eight months (now 15 months - BTJ) ago I recruited six people of various backgrounds who shared a couple of traits. They are funny, intellectually honest in their discourse and own a profound dislike of extremism. We all share a macabre sense if humor.

          The SANE60. We are Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives, a Libertarian and one who claims to be a Socialist (just because he can afford to be). Many of our discussions include observations that seem to be reasonably well represented in the chart below (with thanks to Lulz' Political Spectrum - we do not agree with all of their stuff, but they have a cool meme):

          (From my original posting before I was a full-time Yabberzite:)


          I have developed the term Sane 60 (with entertaining thoughts stimulated by listening, talking with and reading the amazing Will Durst) to describe the true moderate centers of the voter demographic in the USA. 20% of each major party is both loud and extreme. Their rhetoric includes seditious talk when their party is not in power, an utter lack of respect for the office their person does not hold, and the assertion that anyone that disagrees with them is potentially guilty of Treason.

          These 20 percenters are artificially creating a real polarization of Americans, dividing our population by making every effort to curtail the political and religious freedom that their opposition holds.

          The SANE 60 (feel free to spread it around, I hope to have logos made soon) will be known for their failure to spew rhetoric while picketing, their lack of hateful speech and their tolerance of others.


          Not to say we do not have our disagreements.

          So here we are, looking into the deep abyss of cultural divide where the winds of limbo roar (with apologies to Blue Oyster Cult). Those of us who are embarrassed by the Ridiculous Right and the Ludicrous Left watch them as they play lemmings. We refuse to go running off the cliff with those sorry misled souls, and our group remains steadfast against the extremists, tossing out lifelines to those swept up by the legions of misguided voters stampeding to their political demise.

          Those who are rescued from the certain doom of radical ideology are offered counseling, preparing them for the return to rational, balanced thought. It often starts with developing the coping skills to accept the realization that the best interest of their previously trusted fringe leadership is in no way related to their own.

          Who knows, maybe we will become the next centrist party.

          We promise to have great snacks.

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          Once Again The Kochs Put Their Money Where Their Mouths Are

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              Politics remains the location of beds containing odd partners. I am hoping to see the Bill fail and the Kochs do, too.


              Bizarre. Right now the Bill is so full of compromises that the entire piece of Legislation is simply crap. It does virtually nothing to repair the areas of the Affordable Care Act need addressing, and much of the Ridiculous Right do not want what they perceive to be the creation of yet another Government Entitlement program - despite the absolute fact that every uninsured American is a greater strain on the economy than if every single citizen were.

              Charles and David Koch have unveiled a new pool of money for advertisements, field programs and mailings that would exclude those who vote for the health care bill they oppose on Thursday. The effort, which they described as worth millions of dollars, is an explicit warning to on-the-fence Republicans from one of the most influential players in electoral politics not to cross them. - CNN


              It is more than that, though. The Koch Brothers and their collection of Oligarchs handed out between 200 and 300 million bucks last year to Republicans that matched their ideology. To the GOP it is not evil money, for it is theirs alone. Campaign Finance reform is for the little (Read non-GOP) people.


              Just out of curiosity, has Trump finished paying 100 million to his campaign? He was still 60 some odd million short last time I checked. Oh, and while we have all been busy watching the Russian Administration Playhouse on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the Federal Election Commission is still crossing its "Tees" and dotting its "I's".


              There were some salary issues, some missing receipts for the Trump properties and the Trump Family Circus appears to have managed to come out of the election with more cash then they went into it with.


              If the Russians do not get Trump, the IRS and the FEC is a viable threat. In fact Ladbrookes current odds are essentially a coin toss. 10/11 to both serve his full term and to be impeached or resign before serving his full term, and 1/2 to not be elected for a second term even if he survives the first.


              Which leads me to offer another piece of advice to those who are of a betting mind:



              http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/kochs-reser...

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              FBI: Possible Trump Coordination With Russia

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                  FBI: Possible Trump Coordination With Russia

                  FBI Director James Comey arrives to testify on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, March 20, 2017, before the House Intelligence Committee hearing on allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)


                  The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN.

                  The FBI is now reviewing that information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings, according to those U.S. officials. The information is raising the suspicions of FBI counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place, though officials cautioned that the information was not conclusive and that the investigation is ongoing.

                  Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the committee, listed data points connecting Trump to Russia:

                  • The former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page gave a speech in Moscow attacking the US’s “often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change”.
                  • At the behest of the Trump campaign, the Republican party neutered a platform amendment that would call for arming Ukraine against Russian-backed forces. Trump’s then campaign manager, Paul Manafort, had previously worked for the ousted prior Ukrainian leadership that backed Russia.
                  • WikiLeaks published hacked Democratic National Committee emails, prompting several cybersecurity firms and the Obama administration to attribute the hack to Russia. Days later, Trump publicly urged Russia to hack Clinton’s email.



                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/21/fb...

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                  It Worked For The Russians, Are The Saudis Trying Their Hand At Fake News?

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                      http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/22/the-power-stru...

                      The Saudis apparently heard that Trump needs some vindication in support of his new "I Hate MuslimsBut Some Of Them Are My Best Friends" Ban and are providing delayed "intel" to provide some foundation for Bannon's Paranoia.

                      Conveniently after the fact and certainly an ulterior motive or two. And from a source that is reluctant to talk without permission.

                      Another enticement for the #Olifascists?

                      Gossip in the financial markets suggests that the kingdom was dangling the notion of $1 trillion in investments in the United States over the next decade. - FP Magazine


                      Hey, anything to pick up a few more tanks, choppers and a pipeline or two...

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                      Trump Supporter? You Choose: An Ignorant, A Fool, A Liar Or A Traitor?

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                          Here we are nine weeks later and let us check back on what has been happening for our new Administration. Some resignations, a bunch of sand and fog, a slew of pathetically absurd tweets from the Pretend President Trump.

                          Lots of parties in dishonor of the Mercer owned Trump figurehead Bannon Administration started earlier than most Oval Office holders, but with so much to nefarious activity to deal with, the bipartisan investigations had to hit the ground running.

                          There is just so much to work with that Ray CunneffOrganizerHobbes Kevin Mc Daid

                          MurphtheSurf3 twilson117Logic and myself just cannot keep up. Thank heavens there are cartoonists and photographers about that help with their thousand words or so.



                          Meanwhile our fellow Yabberz members keep finding facts from around the world that start us off down paths that both sicken and enlighten us all, and without opie czook Gayle Killian Mykolai Mike Kolesinski Pegasys66 Kelly_1Swamp-fox profromdover Firecracker Dayne Griffith neinstein Catyana Cudd raerae Pamela HughesPam Mosher SorrellsMystery TourSoundNFurymisterzay and everybody else I have not named yet - and there are an awful lot of you, I swear - we could not begin to reveal the absolute slime that coats the Executive Branch.

                          Thank you to all of you from all of us at the SANE60 home office

                          #SANE60

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                          A Man Of War Who Won The Peace

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                              Born out of conflict and eternally tied to the ongoing peace that resides over Northern Ireland Martin McGuinness the deputy leader of the Northern Ireland Assembly passed away yesterday after a short but highly aggressive illness, he was Sixtysix years old and a death that has divided the opinions of many.

                              McGuinness came to prominence in the very early seventies as Second in Command of Provisional Irish Republican Army in what was known then as 'Free Derry' which was a highly significant flashpoint very early on in the Troubles that defined that era. The Bogside Area of Derry had become an actual 'No Go Area' where Security Forces would not enter.


                              As such the IRA took over the area carrying out checkpoints and of course Questionable acts of brutality within that no go area on the very people they claimed they wanted to free. The IRA in those days were dictionary definition terrorists although they flew under a banner of 'Freedom Fighters' against the brutality meted out by their enemies in the security forces.

                              To some McGuinness was a poster child for the anger and resistance against the British State and its dealings in the North of Ireland. His activity within the IRA during those years is still a subject of debate and for many McGuinness is solely judged upon his very early years. Years that saw many Police Officers, Soldiers and those who worked with the security forces shot or blown apart in what were terror attacks.


                              The image from above is of one of the IRA's most heinous acts when they kidnapped a man who had carried out work on Police and Army bases. After they kidnapped Patsy Gillespie, a husband and father they ordered him to drive a car laden with explosives into an Army border checkpoint with the bomb detonating killing Mr Gillespie. I remember this one well as it took place three miles from my childhood home and the explosion rocked our home. For the Gillespie family their lives were irreparably changed, McGuinness and the IRA for their part offered no apology for their horrific act.

                              Of course this is one of the faultlines that often come with divisive politics. For many it is these early years for which judgement is passed on Martin McGuinness. Many of those who were on the receiving of IRA violence have never forgiven McGuinness or his role in the conflict that for decades defined this little part of the world. Political animals here have never been shy from wearing their victimhood as a means to label all as one.....In Nationalist/Republican communities all were often tarred with the same brush as those carried out police shootings and pub bombings and boobytrap bombs.

                              This in turn led to a mistrust of police in these communities and vice versa hence the forty year vicious circle of death and heartbreak and the conflict only lengthening in time and carnage.

                              Some of those who lost family members to IRA violence were vocal in their views of McGuinness being an unrepentant terrorist who played the statesman. Their losses still raw and the memories of the day they lost their loved one as apparent the day it happened. They too have their right to air their own losses as a result of IRA violence as does anyone who loses a loved one in one of the many brutal terror attacks carried out in the name of a version of freedom.

                              Does all this define the man?

                              For those on the receiving end it is the true definition of Martin McGuinness, he was a terrorist before he was a statesman.

                              I do not denigrate nor do I diminish the suffering of those who lost all in acts of violence and their loss will always be with them as long as they hold onto that anger.

                              McGuinness for his own part was a key factor in the stability taken for granted today in the North. He along with others began talks in secret during the very early nineties to bring about a dialogue between the warring factions. At the time people were still dying in terror attacks, the justice system was still a one sided affair and the people were tiring of being stuck in the middle of an intractable merry go round of tit for tat killing on both sides.

                              With the political risks in mind the main players in the negotiations that led to the so called Good Friday Agreement allowed the North to work together across the sectarian divide that was once an insurmountable gorge where at the bottom laid previous peace attempts.....The Belfast Agreement was the first of many steps towards a political stability that not only allowed everyone to take a breath but also highlighted that what divided most.


                              McGuinness was a key figure in negotiating not only the IRA ceasefire but also the disarmament and more importantly the dismantling of the power structure within the IRA's army council. In turn this led to the political parties to form power sharing administrations.....by no means perfect but the killing had almost completely stopped although even today there are those willing to try and test the unity that is cherished by most.


                              His standing within world politics is set and two very key players will attend his funeral including former Prime Minister Tony Blair and former President of the United States Bill Clinton, both of whom were there when the peace was won. The Peace Process that they had helped nurture and grow is studied the world over as an example of the deadliest of enemies becoming a political force and a testament to the power of not just trust but also forgiveness.


                              Those who will always hate what McGuinness stood for will always hate the man and they have their reasons for that hatred whether it be personal loss or simple dislike and mistrust and a distaste for what he was a part of. There are those who see past that, they see and feel the peace continue to grow despite those who would go back to darker days. The greatest example of that peace is the fact that today we have generations of young people who were born into a society that isn't at war with itself..


                              I am of that generation that was born into that and it fills me with hope that this peace will last. That peace was a major part of the Late Martin McGuinness's legacy.


                              Yes he was a terrorist.

                              Yes he was a peacemaker and a statesman.

                              Only our future generations can judge by the society we leave them how that legacy will be judged.

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                              Bannon Voter Fraud - The Case That Keeps On Giving

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                                  Seven months ago I reported on the case of Stephen Bannon's inability to remember his home address, and last week the report came in that Miami-Dade had an open investigation into the possible commitment of felony voter fraud.


                                  czook reported the update of the investigation last week, and further questioning is still underway.

                                  The Guardian reported The issue of Bannon’s legal residency has been simmering since last summer, shortly after he became chief executive of Trump’s campaign. The Guardian reported in an Aug. 26 story that he was registered to vote at a then-vacant house and speculated that Bannon may have signed an oath that he was a Florida resident to take advantage of the state’s lack of state income taxes.


                                  Well the non-payment of taxes would be consistent with the issues facing many members of the Mercer-owned White House, from the Big Boss Robert fighting the IRS for decades over refusing to pay to Acting President Bannon's desire to avoid those pesky contributions to the government to Trump proudly proclaiming that not paying taxes proved his "intelligence" - a claim that on its face is dubious at best (the smart part, the non-payment is a known fact).


                                  The case is not as minor as the Mercer Administration would like everyone to believe, for an arrest alone would challenge the Security Clearance of the arrogant Bannon, if not remove it outright. Another little tidbit that will threaten the Acting President also came up during the follow up:

                                  At the same time Bannon said he was living with his ex-wife, she was under investigation for involvement in a plot to smuggle drugs and a cellphone into a Miami jail, a law enforcement document obtained by The Post shows.


                                  In fact, the ex-wife's boyfriend was busted for cocaine peddling. Like 10 years worth.

                                  Diane Clohesy. Photograph: rightwingnews.com

                                  Under Florida law, it is a third-degree felony to provide false information on a voter registration application. It is punishable by up to five years in prison. First-time offenders are rarely given more than probation, something that could also lead to the loss of a security clearance.

                                  Officials from the State Attorney’s Office for Miami-Dade County, which is led by an elected Democrat, declined to provide details about their probe into Bannon’s residency claim. In denying a Post request for documents about the investigation, officials cited confidentiality rules for “active criminal investigative information.” - Washington Post


                                  And it goes on and on and on...drugs, violence, voter fraud, arrests....


                                  Just how does Bannon rate a security clearance in the first place? Regardless of the outcome of the investigation, our proudly false Chief Executive may be barred from reading his possibly hand delivered instructions from Eastern Europe very soon.



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                                  ​Stephen Colbert: The Trump Budget "Screw Unto Others"

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                                      Stephen Colbert: The Trump Budget

                                      "Screw Unto Others"


                                      "The primary goal of Trump's budget is not driving Cheetos to grandpa after he gets the munchies from his glaucoma pot, it's defending America. And these food-addicted seniors haven't killed any members of ISIS."


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                                      Profiling Trump Revisited

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                                          When I wrote this piece almost three months before the election, many felt it was too harsh, that if Donald Trump should actually win the presidency his excesses as a candidate would be tempered by the responsibilities of the job.

                                          Now, fifty-plus days into the Trump presidency, with so many of his campaign promises broken, with a cabinet and staff composed of all the people he attacked on the campaign trail, with his core supporters potentially the biggest losers in his disastrous budget proposal and health care replacement bill, it's worth another look at what we knew then and what we know now about Donald J. Trump...

                                          Profiling Trump

                                          Off-Ramps, Excuses, Incitement


                                          By Ray Cunneff

                                          8-16-2016

                                          It’s often said that Donald Trump likes to win. There can be no doubt about that. But conversely, he hates to lose. Moreover, by all accounts, he refuses to accept failure even when he loses. He can never be wrong, can never apologize, and must always win at any cost.

                                          And he always gives himself an escape route. (More on that later.)

                                          Similarly, his sense of grandiosity and self-importance is both readily apparent and legendary, the Trump brand emblazoned on a variety of products, many of which have failed, from Trump Airline, to Trump Casinos, to Trump Vodka, to Trump University, to Trump Magazine and others.

                                          As a developer, he builds monuments to himself, his name in gigantic gold letters on the side of buildings, many of which so heavily leveraged that he no longer owns. He begins projects with a barrage of lawsuits and ends them with more lawsuits. He is the most litigious billionaire in American history.

                                          His “Art of the Deal” ethos has built a carefully crafted cult of personality around the Trump brand. He uses the perception of enormous wealth to lure others to him with the promise of shared riches. His principal negotiating tools are strong arm tactics, unilateral demands and the dual threats of “walking away” and reprisals.

                                          His business plan is always “last money in, first money out”. Following that basic maxim, his business partners often are left to suffer the losses, his contractors go unpaid, his employees lose their benefits, often their jobs, and cities and taxpayers are left with the bill and other collateral damage.

                                          When one of Trump’s business enterprises fails, he always offers excuses and someone other than himself to blame. His scapegoats vary according to the circumstances from shoddy contractors, to worker’s demands, to disloyal employees, to corrupt officials, to a system somehow rigged against him.

                                          And those traits are further reinforced by a myopic view of the world as seen from the penthouse, the limousine and the private jet, the arrogance of great wealth and all the erratic, impulsive symptoms of sleep-deprivation. (He brags that he only gets about fours sleep each night.)

                                          As part of his self-protective, but fragile, psychological cocoon, Trump always looks for “off-ramps”, escape routes, rationalizations and threats of negative consequences should he fail to get his way.

                                          As a candidate for President of the United States, he brings this same mindset to his political dealings, along with the myriad of personality disorders behind it.

                                          He threatened that “2nd Amendment people” might take the law into their own hands should Hillary Clinton be elected president and appoint liberal Supreme Courts judges who would take away their gun rights.

                                          He gave himself an off-ramp after agreeing to three presidential debates when he objected that the schedule had been manipulated by the Clinton campaign to conflict with NFL football games even though the debate schedule had been set by a bipartisan committee last September.

                                          He gave himself an excuse when he said that the only way he could lose was if the other side “cheated”. In a move unprecedented in a presidential election, the Trump campaign launched a webpage to recruit “election observers” that proclaimed "Help Me Stop Crooked Hillary From Rigging This Election!

                                          (Although laws vary from state to state, campaigning by political parties is typically banned at polling sites under voter intimidation laws.)

                                          And now Trump and his supporters have taken the “rigged” election theme to outright incitement of violence by claiming that, if Trump were to lose, it could only have happened through voter fraud and the election would therefore be illegitimate. One well-known Trump surrogate has suggested that a Trump loss could lead to a “revolution”.

                                          Donald Trump’s psychological profile suggests a man unable to accept failure or (worse) the perception of failure, often going to extraordinary lengths, both legal and financial, to protect his name and his brand from negative publicity. He frequently lashes out at anyone who criticizes or opposes him, especially the press.

                                          Donald Trump has frequently been described as a “narcissistic sociopath”, terms often used indiscriminately with little understanding of their meaning. However, Trump exhibits all the characteristics of that complex and most dangerous diagnosis.

                                          The profile:

                                          A grandiose sense of self-importance, exaggerates accomplishments and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements. He must “win” at any cost.

                                          A driven quest for power. If a narcissistic sociopath cares about anything other than himself, it is power and control over people.

                                          A sense of entitlement, unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his expectations.

                                          No apologies, no guilt, no remorse. He believes that he is a gift to the world who makes it richer and more colorful. Therefore, his calculated, even cruel actions are always justified. He can never be wrong.

                                          Utterly self-serving. The needs and wants of others are insignificant and undeserving of consideration.

                                          A lack of empathy, an inability to understand or care about the feelings, circumstances or needs of others.

                                          Invincibility. The narcissistic sociopath believes he is indomitable, often expressed in haughty, overbearing behavior.

                                          Behaviors that seek love and admiration. He sees love and admiration as power tools to manipulate and dominate.

                                          Acts as the producer, director, and only actor of his own show. The narcissistic sociopath casts people in roles that increase his power and sense of importance.

                                          Donald Trump’s psychological profile paints a portrait of a man who is ego-driven, self-serving, charming, demanding, impulsive, volatile, reckless, impatient, incapable of real love or empathy, and emotionally fragile.

                                          Overall, a very hazardous and combustible psyche for a President of the United States.



                                          FOOTNOTES:

                                          Even the most casual examination of Trump's record reveals an unscrupulous predator who uses his legal and financial resources and strong arm tactics to advance himself at the expense of others.

                                          The operative word:

                                          ra·pa·cious

                                          rəˈpāSHəs
                                          adjective
                                          1. aggressively greedy or grasping.
                                            "rapacious landlords"

                                          Trump makes a profit. His partners, investors, contractors, employees and municipalities take the losses.

                                          Trump calls that "winning".


                                          Lawsuits are an important part of the Trump business model and are now an important part of the Trump campaign. He's on record on wanting to change the laws so that journalists can be sued for libel. (So much for the constitutional "free press" guarantees.)

                                          Look at almost any Trump business enterprise. They all begin with a flurry of lawsuits and usually end that way. Most never go to trial, he just makes the accused - cities, counties, individuals - spend money they can't afford to defend themselves from the Trump legal onslaught.


                                          When Tony Schwartz, Donald Trump’s ghostwriter for his 1987 memoir, “The Art of the Deal,” decided to tell the public about his concerns that Trump isn’t fit to serve as President, his main worry was that Trump, who is famously litigious, would threaten to take legal action against him. Schwartz’s premonition has proved correct.

                                          On Monday, July 18th, the day that this magazine published my interview with Schwartz, and hours after Schwartz appeared on “Good Morning America” to voice his concerns about Trump’s “impulsive and self-centered” character, Jason D. Greenblatt, the general counsel and vice-president of the Trump Organization, issued a threatening cease-and-desist letter to Schwartz."

                                          Jane Mayer - The New Yorker

                                          Trump can never share the glory, just the royalties. Tony Schwartz regrets ever having written it. He's somewhat protected by never having had to sign a non-disclosure agreement in 1987, the kind that has become standard practice for Trump employees in the years since and has effectively muzzled former employees. Nonetheless, Trumpattorneys have launched a cease-and-desist legal assault on Schwartz, demanding an apology, a re-cant and his share of the royalties from "The Art of the Deal".

                                          It's the "Art of the Steal". I dared another pro-Trump blogger to list Trump's successes. He can't because, although Trump has profited by his predatory business tactics, it's almost impossible to find real Trump successes. He makes profit on the losses of others. There's a long list of Trump business disasters, but he always manages to make a profit. "Last money in, first money out".

                                          This is one of the reasons that fellow-billionaire Mark Cuban has turned against Trump. He recognizes a predator with no interest beyond self-interest. Most super-wealthy people recognize some level of social responsibility but Trump has none.


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